இசை உலகில் நடக்கும் பெரிய Scam இதெல்லாம் ரொம்ப அநியாயம்! | Ramesh Vinayakam | Chat with Chen
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இசை உலகில் நடக்கும் பெரிய Scam. இதெல்லாம் ரொம்ப அநியாயம்! | Ramesh Vinayakam | Chat with Chen
Concept, Writing, Direction & Presentation: Shaji Chen
Camera: S Saravanan, Ramalinga Raja, Arutkani
Editing & Graphics: Arutkani
Additional Graphics: Karthik
Title Music Composition & Tabla: Shruthi Raj
Title Music Arrangement, Programming, Mixing & Mastering: Prashant Venkat
Logo Design: Ravi Palette
Logo Creation: P R Rajan
Subtitles: Karthik Vishwanaath (Dream Thunder)
Location Courtesy:
IITM Pravartak Foundation
Tharamani, Chennai - 113
Special thanks to Srividya Ramesh
Ramesh Vinayakam
In his 3rd and concluding part of Chat with Chen, prodigious composer of Carnatic music, inventor of new raagas, inventor of the first ever notation system in Carnatic music (Gamaka Box) and composer of some endearing Tamil, Telugu film songs Ramesh Vinayakam (en.wikipedia.o...) talks about who has the actual ownership of music, the supremacy of the composer above all, his concerns about current Indian music scene and his future plans in classical music and film music.
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Link to 2nd Episode:
• பாடகருக்கு பாடலில் எந்...
Shaji Chen
Shaji Chen (en.wikipedia.o...) is a renowned writer, movie actor, music and movie critic. He started his career as a Music Industry A&R Executive and later moved to advertising and then to writing. He has written more than 10 books in three languages on movies, music, and memories. He witnessed and chronicled the evolution of Indian popular music and movies, in his reviews and writings. In the last few years, he has been acting in Tamil Movies with occasional outings to Telugu and Malayalam cinema.
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Chat with Chen Ramesh Vinayakam's Interview Part - 1
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Chat with Chen Ramesh Vinayakam's Interview part - 2
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மிக வியக்க வைக்கும்
ஒரு திறமைசாலி.
இவர் பேசியதற்கு மேல்
சொல்வதற்கு எதுவுமே இல்லை.!
அத்தனை தெளிவான
விளக்கம்.
மிகச் சிறப்பு.
🙏🙏
En manasula irundha paarame koranjadhu Ramesh Vinayakam Sir🔥👌👏
He seems to be a genius. Well read very articulate and knows his stuff.
வாழ்த்துக்கள் ரமேஷ்.
வாழ்க வளர்க.
spb yai neril paarthu pesum baagyam kidaithadhu. 2005 June 12th Marakka mudiyaadha naaL avar sonna ondru idhu Ramesh Vinayagam is not recognized the way he should apdinnu sonnar❤
Very True
Paradoxically flawless from this prodigious talent. It unmistakably demonstrates his profound affinity for music. His discussion on rights is both true and accurate regarding inventions. An outstanding individual, Ramesh Vinayagam.
Very good pa கெத்து அப்படி போடு
மிக அழகாக விளக்குகிறார் ரமேஷ்.
திரைப்படத்தில் கேட்கப்படும் அந்தப் பாடலுக்காக உரிமை தொகை கோரப்படுவதில்லை. ஒரு திரைப்படம் ஒவ்வொரு முறையும் திரையிடப்படும் போது ஒவ்வொரு முறையும் அதற்கு ராயல்டி கொடுக்கப்பட வேண்டும். அதைப்போலவே, அந்தத் திரைப்பட பாடல்,
அந்தத் திரைப்படத்தை தாண்டி வெளியிலே ஒவ்வொரு முறையும் ஒலிபரப்பப்படும் போது, அந்த இசையை உருவாக்கியவருக்கு உரிமைத் தொகையை வழங்க வேண்டும்
Mr Ramesh Vinayagam, hats off to you. You have given the best explanation so far. Would be great if you can help Raja Sir ans his legal team with your inputs so that some justice can served in this scam.
That's what this Channel has been doing indirectly & repeatedly over the last few days. Smart people could understand this easily as the arguments & hearings in this case have been going on over the last few weeks. But, on reading the News Reports in the Press, one finds that Counsel Vijay Narayanan has put up valid points quite fairly and impressively for the Recording Company in this case. Generalised opinion will not hold water in a particular case as the tenors of the Agreements between the interested parties vary from case to case.
நியாயமாக பேசுகிறீர்கள்....
எல்லாருக்கும், புரியுது நியாயம்ன்னு தெரியுது
இது இசைஞானி விசயத்தில மட்டும் எல்லாரும் தெரியாத மாதிரி நடிக்கிறாங்கன்னு மட்டும் தெரியுது சார்.
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Ramesh Vinayakam 100 PERCENT CORRECT
Thank you for providing such a clear explanation and supporting examples. This truly helps those who may be ignorant or envious.
Awesome! Atlast someone talking properly ! Intellectual, intelligence you can not value it. Perfect info.ppl should understand what he says.
Ramesh Ji dint get the status what he really deserves...Music world would get benefitted if people of his calibre call the shots.. Waiting for that day like everyone. Wish him luck for all is new projects.
Thank you sir for supporting.
Wonderful discussion ...The interviwer asks really intelligent questions equally countered by Ramesh sir
Very honest interview
I'm not even getting into copyrights... but here's my thought. The invention he is talking about does not come out of thin air because the director of the project has an idea, a situation, and a particular mood he wants to convey. The so-called invention is bound by those rules and parameters. If this were a solo album, like "Thriller," Michael Jackson would have had an idea that he discussed with his team and executed it by even producing a video and hiring the best horror film director at the time, who directed "An American Werewolf in London," to bring his vision to life. To me, that is more of an invention, without anyone's direction. Essentially, a film project made in India is collaborative and is not just an individual's idea or thought.
This is the clarity that most people are not getting, including Ramesh vinayakam
Everybody knows film projects are collaborative taken anywhere in the world.Here we have to consider the creation of tunes which may have constraints...like situations etc.,The point is how the mood is brought in another form which is clearly different from verbal words.There are innumerable films in English,Tamil and other languages where the director only gives minimum line of an idea on which the music composer gives a different perspective and creates a gamut of ideas to film directors to go further in direction.Proper tunes created and formed anew which becomes an invention is in a different zone which a director or others can't create at all.
@@Uyou-op7ecall the creative professionals are like that no? Artists, sculptors, art directors, cinematographers, etc
Ramesh Vinayakam is Crystal Clear in His message to all and sundry.Most of those who have half baked knowledge and have coloured biased and predetermined opinion and thoughts with preconceived notions alone counter and oppose this original composer .A real music director or composer in indian films see to it that all the instrumentalists and singers stick to the notes given by him.The real composer goes on correcting all the players to the minutest details as he has envisaged in the form of tunes pauses and silences.Every nuance in the form of music of any piece made comes from a original composer before reaching the audience.Here i am not talking about those who are not original composers.I feel Ramesh Vinayakam is one of those rare original composers among composers.Ramesh Vinayakam 's out put has been truly original as far as I have heard till date.Let us cherish this composers thoughts and music and pray for His work to flourish and give immense joy to all connoisseurs and layman alike.
All the Best Ramesh Vinayagam Sir! We are with you sir. Good interview by Shaji!
Really well explained to these stupids who are thinking that illayaraja is greedy. SIR EVEN AFTER YOUR EXPLANATION THE INTERVIEWER WILL NOT ACCEPT AS HE IS Nynasuniyam
interviewer has rightly bought the essense of topic , interviewer has put forth valid question in the argument. his acceptance or denials are immaterial. He has ended the topic in vinayagam argument is clear
கேள்விகளும் பதில்களும் அருமை , அசத்தல் !!!
நான் ஒரு படம் எடுத்தால்
ரமேஷ்தான் music
You make money with a content that is not yours, pay royalties. What IR or the creator does with the Royalties is not your business. Do the correct thing and pay first.
Also no one knows what IR does with the Royalties. He may be paying the musicians.
The issue is a clear biased slander on IR by the media and by the lack of basic knowledge by millions of people on RUclips.
Haters can hate but it doesn’t make it right.
There You are!!!You said it Right.
He is razor sharp!
Such an amazing people.
சார் நீங்கள் இசை துறைக்கு கிடைத்த மிகப்பெரிய பொக்கிஷம் நான் ஒரு இசை கலைஞனாக இருந்த பொழுதும் உங்களைப் பற்றி சரிவர அறியவில்லை. இந்த நேர்காணல் மூலம் தங்களுடைய இசை ஞானத்தை புரிந்து மன்னிக்கிறேன் ஐயா வாழ்க உங்களோடு பணிபுரிய மிகவும் ஆசையாக உள்ளது. ❤️❤️💐💐🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
My respect for Ramesh Vinayakam has grown multifold. நிறை குடம் தெளும்பாது.
Romba azhaga explain paneenga sir
Ramesh vinayakam great composer.i respect him.In the future difficult to get such a knowledgeable person.
Perfect reply on royalty
வாழ்த்துக்கள் சார் 🎉🎉
Everything is contract/ agreement/ law. The interviewer should be aware of that. When things get legally entangled everything will be interpreted according to law not by sentimental issues and opinion of others.
Such a stunning musician ❤
Love him listening to to him
Best wishes Ramesh Anna 💐
By his analogy, Royal Albert Hall belongs to the architect and Taj Mahal to the designer not to the owners…
It all about the contract that defines the ownership
you are wrong, by his analogy robert hall belongs to the owner only and taj mahal belongs to shah jahan. But if you want to replicate or duplicate and build another robert hall or taj mahal, credit and royalty must goes to architect not the owner.
Excellent interview
Fantastic explanations 👌👏🏻👍
தமிழ் இசையை கர்நாடக இசை என பெயரிட்டு ஒரு கூட்டம் தன்வயப்படுத்தியதால் தமிழ் இசை பரவவில்லை.
Come out of the pond and try to see the ocean
And the sea😅😊
They r highly. Incorrigible. Another 100 years they will be in the pond and think that is the ocean 😀😀@@user-sk2pi5pk5k
கலைஞனுக்கும் தொழிலாளிக்கும் வித்தியாசம் இல்லையா mr.vinayagam.
Sema explanation🎉🎉❤❤
Yes very right. Your tune is made out of pre existing/ codified Notes/ Swaras.Perhaps composer reali😢gns,based on,again with a codified Ragam.its fine its all yours,because you invented it. If that tune is going to be a Private Album for sale,,of course with all your cash investments,created,mastered and published then you have the whole right,royalties etc. But when you compose for a Producer and for his film,be it h just a bgm or a song, the producer pays you,your demanded rate. Then the commercial transaction comes to a close.When the transaction comes to a close, how one of the contributors who just SOLD his invention can be a Proprietor for such sold products. The product is not in your Shelf. Its sold. We may say that a specific clause wrf to this aspect is included in the agreement between producer and composer,then it becomes just another issue.
Go and read Indian law on musical copyrights.You will become enlightened
Very well explained about raja sir copyright issue, thanks a lot for this clarification ❤
Appidna illayaraja sir mumuthri legend thayagraja swamikku evvaluvu kudukkunnam???
இசைஞானியின் இசைக்கோர்ப்பில் வந்த பாடல்களை அப்படியே அட்சரம் பிசகாமல் கான்சர்ட் மேடைகளில் பாடி கோடிக்கணக்கில் சம்பாதிக்கிறார்கள்!
அதனால் இசை ஞானிக்கு காப்பிரைட் சட்டப்படி ராயல்டி கேட்கிறார்!
லெஜெண்ட் தியாகராஜ சுவாமிகளின் பாடல்களில் எந்தப்பாடலை அட்சரம் பிசகாமல் இசைஞானி பயன்படுத்தினார்? என்று கூறுங்களேன்!
சுவாமிகளுக்கு ராயல்டி கொடுத்துவிடலாம்!
Correct fine question
Evlo sonnalum puriyadhu uvangaluku @@subash9726
Tyagaraja tamizhnaatuku varadhuku munnaadi syama Sastry oda ancestors inga vandhu krithis compose panradhuku munadi ewlo kuduthaanglo awalo.
how much Thyagaraja is indebted to Tamil culture and Ancient Tamil music, Odhuvars, Appar, Sambandar, etc.
Some things are different sonnadhu needhana song old and kannana kanney kannana kanney song totally hits due to lyric action situation musicians and the FEEL of combo
Made lots of sense…
Stomach burning 🥵 Speech.
If your stomach is burning nobody can help it.
Music composer has full rights to
🎉🎉🎉
Great musician great singer too
👍👍🙏
Exceptional talent. Ellorum ivar opinion madhikkanum
நெறியாளர் ஷாஜி விழிகளின் பாடலை குறிப்பிட்டு கேட்ட கேள்வி மகத்தானது. எனக்கு மிகவும் பிடித்தமான பாடல். சௌதி அரேபியாவில் முதல் நாள் கால் தடம் பதித்த அன்று என் இருப்பிடத்திற்கு சென்றதும் இரவு 9 மணிக்கு தொலைக்காட்சியில் ஒலித்த முதல் பாடல் இது. மறக்கவே முடியாத இனிமையான பாடல்.
Woweeeeee 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
👏👏👏👏
Kudos to the anchor !!!
Song director pannuravanum invention, dance master steps vum invention, camera man camera angle invention, set podura kaliyum invention....🤔
Thiyagaraja swamigal's ragas are adopted by all music composers. So, all other inventions in music are only derivatives and not original. It is just like Ranar pillai's oil invention from the oil base
Ragas are different and tunes are different. Every body is using it. If needed Thyagarajaswamy can file the case, other is alive.
Dear Sir
Yes, I agree ragas and tunes are not one and the same. Tunes donot follow the strict rules of ragas.But , tunes must follow the elements of ragas. Composers mix the raga elements using mix of swaras. But, all tunes can be linked to some raga base.
One person originally invents and gives freely to others to use,, others make derivatives out of it and claim they invented and claim right.
Those yesteryear creators were selfless, not solicited accolades and rights for their musical inventions unlike moderners who brag on little derivatives.
Almost 100% of filmy musicals are traced back and decoded to some mix of raga base.
Thiyagaraja samiti,in Thiruvaiyaru should claim rights over all Thyagabrahmam creations , then all others,will keep mum on their derivative creation right
@@subramanianramamoorthy3413 I agree what are you saying. It’s not that Thyagaraja and others are not selfless, does not mean that music directors are also to be selfless. Movie industry is full of money, and hence for music directors. The grounds are completely different. In that case India gave lot of things to human society for free, we are taking patent as we invented. Music copy rights are also the same way.
@@parthasarathy.chakravarthy3002 Boss
What I refer to is the original invention part in music and they lived simple through long life. But, users of His creations, let them say we derive from original source and we keep secondary derivative invention right in music and we need right for our tune and we need royalty for our survival in posh life.
I am not questioning them earning money but I still question them on the source of their creation.
That is it
Many musical composers should come up and derive new ones to keep people entertained and live better. No issue. But , credit should go to the foundational original creators. That is my wish and prayer
Thanks for your understanding things in its proper perspective.
Have great life Bro
@@subramanianramamoorthy3413 bro whatever our “real” music directors are doing is also creation. Ilayaraja invented 2 new raga’s. The purpose of the music is different from thyagabrahmam and now. God was divine then but drama / cinema and money is divine now. But needless to say, good music almost dead now a days. It’s better not to have songs in music and only re-recording is enough.
In your orchestra when you switch ON your keyboard it works through electricity. So first pay royalty to the inventor of electricity.
Music directors are already paid by the producer. Dont play too smart to fool the people.
He is quite right, but indian film industry is totally unorganized and nobody knows what is this stuff is all about. Music is like said is intellectual thing, every composer has their own idea on top of rough idea given by director.
Ramesh Sir, with due respects to your talent, I object to your views. I agree it is invented but it is paid for by the producer. A contract comes into place and he has sold his invention. So he cannot own it after that
I second it...
Go and read Indian law on musical copyrights
Watch Tetris movie. Based on a true story. The copyright issue is on the platform. The platform is the movie for which the transaction is over, another platform like TV Channel, you need to pay royalty.
Ramesh Vinayakam sir is pure intelligence.
You are perfectly right,You have hit on the Bulls eye
You have it on the Bulls eye*
நீங்கள் சொல்வதெல்லாவற்றையும் ஏற்றுக்கொள்கிறேன். பாடகர், இசைக் கலைஞர் வரை ஓகே. கம்போசர் போடும் மெட்டுக்கு வரிகளைப் போடும் கவிஞன் அப்படி இல்லையே!? பாலா இல்லாவிட்டால் வேறு ஒருவர். ஆனால் கவிஞனும் கம்போசரும் தனித்துவம் கொண்டவர்களாயிற்றே? வேறு கவிஞனை வைத்து அதே மெட்டுக்குப் பாடல் எழுதலாம். ஆனால் பாடல் வேறாகிடுமே!? கற்பனை வேறாகிடுமே!? மெட்டு மட்டும் மாறாது. அதேபோல் வேறு ஒருவர் கம்போஸ் செய்யலாம். ஆனால் மெட்டு வேறாகிடுமே!? எனவே , பாடலாசிரியனுக்கும் இசையமைப்பாளருக்கும் பாடலில் சம பங்கு உண்டு. காப்பிரெட்டிலும் சம பங்கு உண்டு. கவிஞனுடைய கற்பனையும் intellectual தான். மெட்டு ஒரு கவிஞனின் கற்பனையில் பங்கு கேட்க முடியாது..
ஒரு software developer - ஒரு கொம்பனிக்கு உருவாக்கிய மென்பொருள் யாருக்குச் சொந்தம்?
Please go and read the laws on musical copyrights and compare professionals with office going guys who gets everything from day one.
❤️❤️👍🏽👍🏽🙏🏼🙏🏼... Hai shaji... Iam siji
Story screenplay situation இல்லாமலா music director மெட்டுபோட்டு கொடுத்தாரு?! Western music copyright is different because mostly they are all independent musicians. Indian music is intertwined with the movie industry. Both are poles apart.
வைதேகி காத்திருந்தாள் என்ற திரைபடம் அதன் மெட்டுக்களுக்காக உருவாக்கப்பட்டது. மெட்டுக்களுக்காக தான் அதன் திரைக்கதையே உருவானது.
@@sritharanvilvamoorthy3310 அப்போ அதுக்கு மட்டும் copyright claim பண்ணுங்க sir!
If we hire an architect....?
You can marry him or her as You please lol
Nice interview
Yes invention was sold to others who invented sa re ga ma asper u r argument rights belongs to basic of swaram sa re ga ma once a subject sold to others after v can't claim for the same
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I buy the best of plot in a posh and premium area to build a house for me. So, I hire a popular and successful Architect to draw an excellent plan, hire an experienced and qualified Mason to build it, and I PAID THEM ALL HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY AS THEIR REMUNERATION OR COMPENSATION FOR THEIR TRAPECTIVE WORKS.
Now tell me, who will be the owner of the house? Me or the Architect or the Mason?
Example:
Plot = The Movie
Me = The Producer of the film
Architect = The Director of the film
Mason = The Music Composer of the film
Examples for TANGIBLE and INTANGIBLE.Insurance product is INTANGIBLE.Soap and such things are TANGIBLE.This is a very important one to understand.Concept of Insurance is idea which is intangible.Whereas soap is not an idea.Hope I am clear.
Please go and read Indian law on musical copyrights
There is a flaw in his argument about copyright. He seems to have a bit of a blindspot about the supreme role of the composer in creating the intellectual property (maybe because he is a composer himself). But there are many cases where the people hired to simply "execute" end up contributing creative additions. A singer can improvise on a tune to create a sequence of notes that the composer did not create. They might wholly improvise a section under the guidance of the composer. By his logic (when he talks about would MSV have composed Ilaya Nila), this is a sequence of notes that a different singer or keyboard player would not have created. So does that mean the singer receives copyright for half a line here and half a line there? No, because he has been hired by the composer for a recording. A work-for-hire arrangement is one in which the person being hired gives up their rights over the resulting intellectual property in exchange for money. It is ultimately a matter of what the legal agreement was for this arrangement.
And that applies to the composer as well. He did not really answer Shaji's question: "Is the composer not also hired to execute on a vision and create a tune?" And the answer is yes. The question of copyright depends on the legal agreement the composer signed when they were hired. For a clear example, composers work on ad jingles all the time. I promise you there has never been a single ad jingle in the history of advertising where the composer was granted the copyright for the tune composed. That would be absurd. The company has hired a composer to create a piece of intellectual property that they intend to use as branding well into the future. They have paid the composer for the work they did, and the company now fully owns the piece of music. Same goes for a visual designer who makes a logo for a company. It is indeed creative work that has sprung from the intellect of the designer; that is not relevant at all. The logo belongs to the company because they have bought the design from the designer fully.
So the ultimate question is, what was the deal that Ilayaraaja (or any other composer) signed with the producer of the movie? If their deal signed over the copyright, they have already been fully compensated for their work and have no further claim over the intellectual property. If they have merely licensed the tune to the producer for use in the film (which is how many modern deals are written I believe), then sure, the composer holds the copyright. It depends on the contract. The composer doesn't have some magical claim to the composition, as if they are the only person who used their intellect in the creation.
Ilayaraja is given an idea to invent some tune and song by the producer and director and he is paid fully for that invention.
The moment his invention is bought for the movie it ceases to exist as Ilayaraja,s
property.
If Ilayaraja invents a tune and coming to know of if someone wants to use it he has to pay for it as copyright. Not for a song (invention) that is already by a producer bought for the public.
Any person who has listened to that already bought song(invention)has the right to hum,sing,perform and enjoy it in any way he likes without paying a single dime to that inventor as he has already sold his invention to someone who had made it public.
Illayaraja will never ask You to be His lawyer for sure.You have so much of wisdom!!! Well done!!!Keep it up!!!
@@Uyou-op7ec
Thanks. He hasn’t opened his mouth about royalty when he was wallowing in poverty and sharing one idli with his brother.
He sold his talent, become a millionaire and ask for more for what he has sold already. Pity him.
Go and read the law on musical copyrights.
Jet Engine inventor never claimed royalty, In Fact when the actula passenger rolled out the original designer was not alive. Please read again physics or chemistry.
Mr. Ramesh, when you say the royalty of MSV's songs should go to MSV's heirs, should the heirs of Kannadhasan be left out? Or Kannadhasan's lyrics are not 'inventive' enough as per your standards?
When someone speaks about MSV alone Kannadasan will come to your mind. That too, no other lyricists. But when someone talks about ILaiyaraja, Vairamuthu will not come to your mind. That's your Standard ?
@@vasudevancv8470 My question is only about who has the right to the royalty of a song. If a music director invented a song from thin air, so does a lyricist. If you are to side with who created the music, you have to also side with who created the lyrics. It doesn't matter whether it is MSV or Ilaiyaraaja or Thayanban or Oviyan or Kannadhasan or Vairamuthu or Sirpy Balasubramaniam.
Mr Ramesh Vinayakam had clearly stated that lyricist have their rights as far as their work is concerned at the very start of the answer given by Him.There is no need to have any doubts about it.
@@Uyou-op7ec Then what about the singers? Are they only labours?
@@nilaimages So far, 3 Videos have been uploaded by this UT Channel recently - showing interviews with Mr Ramesh Vinayagam. In the 1st Video itself he gracefully admitted and acknowledged the role of creativity by the Lyricists in creation of film songs which no one can deny. I too highlighted and appreciated Mr Ramesh Vinayagam's acknowledgement of Lyricists'role in my Comments in that 1st Video. I countered you only as you specifically mentioned about Kannadasan only for MSV's Songs and Not mentioning about the role of Other lyricists in Other Composers's songs. Only after my counter to you, wisdom seemed to have dawn on you to raise your voice for all the lyricists. I leave the matter at this. Tks.
Let the courts decide the rights ;
Court did not produce the tunes
@@parthasarathy.chakravarthy3002You mean courts have no right to decide because it has not created the tunes.?You have a very interesting logic.Please enlighten the whole world.
According to Your logic Courts can decide the rights of any case unless it has involved itself as the accused and victim simultaneously.Well done Mr Parthasarathy....
@@Uyou-op7ec I just said in a funny way. Everyone knows court is there to solve disputes . Come on …
You should not have,or either unwittingly,made fun of the court.,Mr Parthasarathy.chakravarthy3002@@parthasarathy.chakravarthy3002
Then architects should demand royalties or share of rent for building designed by them. Fundamentally fkawed argument articulated with bombast.
How many songs they copied from some other songs
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To play an instrument also requires intellect. Has he/she does not play the instrument, can you hear the sound purely from musical note?
Similarly, a song is heavily influenced by the scene in a movies (the scene is also created by the writer/director of the movie purely from the intellect of one / many). Giving the entire credit of a song to music composer (whose is not even lyric writer) is NOT justifiable from my opinion.
இதென்ன இளையராஜா போன்றே திமிரான உளறல் கேள்வி..? ட்யூன்ஸ் இல்லன்னா நீங்க என்ன பண்ணுவீங்க? ட்யூன்ஸ் இல்லன்னா நிம்மதியா தூங்கி நிம்மதியா எந்திருச்சு சிறப்பா வாழ்ந்திருப்போம்...
இசை எனபது வெறும் ஓசைகள் தொகுப்பு... இசை உண்மையில் ஒரு ஓசை மாசு... இசை என்னும் ஓசை மாசு இல்லாவிட்டால், மனித குலம் இன்னும் நிம்மதியாக இருக்கும்..
Idhu anniyayam, music is a devine, Kaaka kuruvi kuda isaiku mayangum, Nenga great different a yosikurenga
@@sridevirajan3672 Music is never divine.. The latest research of Massachusetts Institute of Technology US states the potential danger of Music leading to mental disorders, while Music causing hearing loss is an already known issue. Again heavy metal music is openly Satanic.. Where is your divinity in all this?
@@unitymedianewsnetwork8122Stone alone would say what You have said.Even the animals and plants would completely differ, destroy and refute You hands down with their reactions if only You have least sense of an eye in You.Whoever compares Music with mere shouting ,polluted noice etc.,Must be utterly soulless.
இந்த தீபாவளிக்கு அஜித் படம் வருதாம், விஜய் படம் வருதாம், ரஜினி படம் வருதாம் ன்னு சொல்றோமே தவிர அதோட தயாரிப்பாளர் பேர சொல்லி அவரு படம் வருதாம் ன்னு யாரும் சொல்றதில்லை. இது இளையராஜா பாட்டுன்னு சொன்னா சில பேருக்கு ஜாதி, மத பிரச்சனை வந்து பொங்க ஆரம்பிச்சுட்றான். படத்தின் கதாநாயகன் அப்போதே ஐநூறு கோடி ஆயிரம் கோடி என காசு பார்த்து விடுகிறார், ஆனால் இசையமைப்பாளர் அவரது இசைக்கு கூட உரிமை கோரக் கூடாதாம். சினிமா படம் என்பது ஒரு project என்றால், அதில் இசை என்பது மற்றொரு project. அந்த project செய்தவருக்கு அது சொந்தம். அந்த காலத்தில் இலங்கை வானொலியில் முழு திரைப்படமா பார்த்தோம்? பாடல்களை மட்டும் தானே கேட்டோம்? இன்று கூட பாடல்களையும், BGM ஐயும் தனித்தே ரசிக்கிறோமே? அது அவரது தனித்த project டாக இருக்கிறதா இல்லையா? ஆக ரமேஷ் விநாயகம் அவர்கள் சொல்வது மிகச்சரி. !
திரு ரமேஷ் அவர்களுக்கு ஒரு கேள்வி.
ஒருவர் 1000 திற்கும் மேற்பட்ட tunes conceive செய்து, குறிப்பு எழுதி வைத்து இருந்தாலும்
(Notations ) அவற்றை வைத்து என்ன செய்வார்.
அதை புத்தகமாக போட்டு, பதிப்பு உரிமை வாங்கி வைத்துக் கொள்ளலாம். அவருக்கு royalty எப்போது வரும் என்றால் அந்த புத்தகத்தை யாராவது வாங்கும்போது தான்.
அவர் ஒரு கவிதை எழுதுபவர் மூலமாகத் தான் தன் இசைக்கு சரியான வடிவம் கொடுக்க முடியும்.
உதாரணம் ஆக மும்மூர்த்திகள் அவர்கள் பாடல்களுக்கு அவர்களே வடிவம் கொடுத்து அவர்கள் சிஷ்யர்களுக்கு சொல்லிக் கொடுத்தனர். யாரும் விலை பேசவில்லை.
தியாகராஜர் சொன்னது
" நிதி சால சுகமா".
பிற்காலத்தில் நிறைய பேர்
கோபால கிருஷ்ண பாரதியார், தமிழ் மூவர், பெரியசாமி தூரன், சிதம்பரநாதன், பாரதியார், பாரதிதாசன். ஆகியோருடைய பாடல்களுக்கு வர்ண மெட்டு மகா வித்வான்கள் அமைத்து பாடினார்கள், பிரபல படுத்தினார்கள்.
அம்புஜம் கிருஷ்ணா அவர்களின் பாடலுக்கு
T N சேஷகோபாலன் isai அமைத்து இருக்கிறார்.
அவரே ஹரிகேச நல்லூர்
முத்தையா பாகவதர் அவர்களின் சில/பல பாடல்களுக்கு சிட்ட ஸ்வரம் அமைத்து இருக்கிறார்.
பாபநாசம் சிவன் போன்ற மாமேதைகள் அவர்களுடைய பாடல்களுக்கு அவர்களே வடிவம் கொடுத்து இருக்கிறார்கள்.
சுவாதி திருநாள் பாடல் சிலவற்றுக்கு Semmangudi சீனிவாச ஐயர் மெட்டு அமைத்து இருக்கிறார்.
( உதாரணம்: பாவயாமி ரகுராமம்). அந்த பாடல் கோடிக் கணக்கில் பாடப் பெற்று இருக்கலாம். யாராவது அவருக்கு royalty கொடுத்தார்களா?
இசை குறிப்புகள், notations, ஆகியவை எலும்புக் கூடு தான். பாடல் வரிகள் தான் அந்த எலும்புக் கூட்டிற்கு
சதை, இரத்தம், நரம்பு போன்றவற்றை குடுத்து
அழகாக ஆக்குகிறது.
ஒருவரும் இவரது குறிப்புகளை பயன் படுத்த முன் வரவில்லை என்றால்
அவை பாழ் பட்டு போகும்.
😮Sir you please don't waste your time for Him.
Go and read Indian law on musical copyrights
@@Uyou-op7ec
Law and justice need not always synchronise.
Secondly, as I understand, Ilayaraja had not entered in to an enforceable agreement with the producer/s of the films for which he composed music retaining the Copy Right with him. He consciously or may be out of ignorance might not have entered in to agreement. The Producer, in his capacity as the owner ( because he paid for the music and also because he had not been bound by any agreement with the composer) sold the rights to a Music Company. This is the crux of the matter. Ilayaraja woke up after 1990 and then started enforcing his copy rights with the producers by signing an agreement. For the compositions after 1990, Ilayaraja holds the IPR and nobody questions it.
So the architect of Tajmahal can claim ownership not Sajahan😂😂
Architect of Tajmahal can claim Mumtaz..lol
Yes it is. If needed and he had a contract with Shajahan on the design.
விழிகளின் பாடல் ஒரு 1000 பாடல்களுக்கு சமம்
he is dominating by his vacubilary. anchor is is useless.
இசையமைப்பாளர் புத்திசாலி போல் speed ஆக பேசுகிறார் ஆனால் புரியாமல் பேசுகிறார்
சரி!
நீதான் புத்திசாலியாச்சே!
புரிகிற மாதிரி நீ சொல்லு.
(இந்த கொத்தனார், வீடு கதையெல்லாம் சொல்லி உருட்டக் கூடாது. அறிவுசார் சொத்துரிமை சட்டம் என்ன சொல்கிறதோ அது படி விளக்க வேண்டும்)
இவரது கருத்தில் தெளிவு இல்லை. இளையராஜா அமைத்த how to name it, nothing but windirkku யாரும் இதை மறுக்க போவதில்லை. ஆனால் திரையுலக பாடலில் கூட்டு முயற்சியை அங்கீகரிக்காமல் இருப்பது தனக்கு வாய்க்கப்பெற்ற கற்பனை திறனை கர்வமாகமாற்றிக் கொள்வதே ஆகும்.
சார், இதை அப்படியே மற்ற இசையமைப்பாளருக்கும் சொன்னிங்கன்னா, சரியா இருக்கும். ஏன்னா இளையராஜா தவிர ரஹ்மான் , அதுக்கப்பறம் வந்தவங்க கரக்ட்டா copyrights வாங்கிடராங்க. பாவம், உங்க கிட்ட மாட்டிட்டு ராஜா பட்ற பாட்டு இருக்கே 😅
என்னைக்காவது ஏன் ரஹ்மான் இந்தமாதிரி copyrights விஷயத்துல வற்றதில்லைன்னு யோச்சி இருக்கிங்களா ?????
திரைப்பாடலில் கவிஞரும் இசையமைப்பாளரும் செய்வது தான் Artwork மற்றவர்கள் செய்வது labour work எனவே அவர்கள் இருவருக்கு தான் உரிமை. அவர் இன்னொன்றையும் குறிப்பிடுகிறார் இதன் பலன்கள் தயாரிப்பாளருக்கு, இசையமைப்பாளருக்கு மற்றும் எழுத்தாளருக்கு செல்லாமல் ஆடியோ கம்பெனிக்கு செல்கிறது அவர்கள் தான் ஊழல் செய்கிறார்கள்.
you have 0 knowledge about intellectual property and copyright. So don't blame Ilayaraja sir.
Can anyone in Hollywood use Michael Jackson's song or music without paying copyright amount even if u use 10 secs?
@@siddhaonlineWhat you said is correct. But in a way not correct, why because, he pretends to be unaware as he is prejudiced against ILayaraja
Ilayaraja is jealous of everyone in film world He is critical of everyone and talks lot of rubbish.In my opinion he doesn't deserve the title Isai ghyani
Moothaevi 82 years of age , Unga thaathan unnaiyae maranthirupaar,
Movie industry not true to him , that's the fact ,
Just don't talk what shitty u tube channels cooked
He is straight forwarded, not acting like others
ok. u are having caste biased view. shame.van be ssen from your name. what the hell did you people do to spread carnatic musicc you kept it to youself and you people get angry if ot is spread by a pperson who does not belong to your community.
@@Vinnyhassal who is that 82 years aged Moothevi ?
@@tamilselvan2485 81 yrs pothuma tuclusssu
@@tamilselvan2485 sathiyamaa unna pethaa thanda karumaathiram illa
Ramesh Ji dint get the status what he really deserves...Music world would get benefitted if people of his calibre call the shots.. Waiting for that day like everyone. Wish him luck for all is new projects.